吃家常便飯,談國家大事

吃家常便飯,談國家大事

今晚,我很高興有機會與華叔(司徒華)和十多位友人吃吃家常便飯,談談國家大事。聽聽華叔堅持平反六四二十年的經歷,對香港政治生態環境的見解。穫益良多。

10 Responses to 吃家常便飯,談國家大事

  1. exile from hk says:

    So which one is you? Aren’t you in the photo?

  2. assenav says:

    he was elected in my district long time ago, while i was a primary school kid…

    but i didn’t like him as a politician.

  3. kempton says:

    exile,

    Ha ha, I was holding the camera. (note: three inappropriate versions of this comment has been edited out.)

    assenav,

    you are free to disagree with his politics. In fact, when we chatted last night, he said he didn’t expect to persuade or change the younger generation much (although he tries) but what he care about most is for them to be good people.

  4. assenav says:

    hmm… i didn’t let him down then.

    talking about politics, my early education in mainland china had deep influence on my political view.

    i didn’t think 4th june was a big deal at all. there’s no “right” or “wrong” in politics, just winners and losers.

  5. kempton says:

    Dear assenav,

    > hmm… i didn’t let him down then.

    I am sure he will be happy about it. :)

    > talking about politics, my early education in mainland china had deep influence on my political view.

    Of course, very understandable.

    > i didn’t think 4th june was a big deal at all. there’s no “right” or “wrong” in politics, just winners and losers.

    Dear assenav, I am afraid there is “right” and “wrong” in politics. I told 華叔(司徒華)that I have yet to be convinced how can defenseless students and Chinese citizens that were squashed by their government’s tanks be blamed or be at fault?

    Now, you are living in HK and don’t have political need to say things to please anyone, may I suggest try to understand why some people think there are right and wrong in June 4th and in politics.

    Winners and losers are always present. One day, deep in my deepest heart, I hope the Chinese government will not worry too much about letting their sons and daughters (her citizens) “win” sometimes.

    Have a read and listen of Rebecca’s online chat with the patriotic Chinese youth who run anti-CNN.com.

    In Canada, we citizens of Canada don’t always win but we win often enough when we are “right”. Our independent Judicial System ensures that with tools like our Charter of Rights and Freedom. Our Charter is designed to ensure and protect Canadians against the temporary insanity of politicians and the unjust rules and laws established by our elected officials.

  6. assenav says:

    我不認爲民主自由是什麽一回事,這些純粹是地球上某部份人的理念,並不代表這是對的。政治不是數學,根本沒有絕對。擧個例子,我認爲大麻是好的,然後我犧牲一切來爭取大麻合法化,甚至用身體來抵擋坦克子彈,這樣會讓我的行爲變得正確麽?

    一套理念行之有效,並不代表它是正確的。事實上,民主體制下經常出現謬誤。民不民主不主根本不重要,政治本來就是少數自以爲聰明的人來愚弄大部份的平凡人。你認同加拿大的民主,只因適合那裏的社會文化背景,但同一套東西不見得適合其他國家。爲了爭取自以爲正確的東西,就妄顧社會法制和治安,跑到街上阻塞交通。對不起,我不會覺得這是正確的做法。

    人們支持六四,是因爲被灌輸了西方的哲學思想,便以爲那一套是一加一等於二的萬有定律。雖然這樣說有點果斷,但我不排除某些人根本就是盲目地被既得利益者利用,來為他人爭取政治本錢。

    我覺得政治的唯一目的,就是要讓人民生活富足國泰民安,手段如何並不重要。看看新加坡,有人像批評中國那樣批評過他們麽?沒有,原因很簡單,因爲這麽一個小國根本不屑一顧。

    唉,算了吧,我一介女流,談什麽國家大事,睡覺好過。

  7. assenav says:

    哈哈,我要重申,我的政治立場就是沒立場!政治,關卿何事?

  8. kempton says:

    Hi assenav,

    > 我覺得政治的唯一目的,就是要讓人民生活富足國泰民安,手段如何並不重要。

    “手段如何並不重要” is “by any means” which some people (including me) consider as wrong. Just look at what Bush 43 had done in the name of National security. And look at the things Obama 44 had to do to reverse.

    > 看看新加坡,有人像批評中國那樣批評過他們麽?

    I criticize 新加坡 every time I can. The 新加坡 model is they will sue their so-called opposition parties into bankruptcies every chance they have.

    > 唉,算了吧,我一介女流,談什麽國家大事,睡覺好過。

    Don’t underestimate yourself. The power of one person (woman or man) is much stronger than you think.

    > 哈哈,我要重申,我的政治立場就是沒立場!

    哈哈,”沒立場” is also one type of “立場”. Fortunately, in a democracy, you do not have to vote yes or no. Where as in some countries, if you don’t vote along the government, you are considered unpatriotic.

    > 政治,關卿何事?

    It affects us everyday.

    Enough said by me here as I don’t think we can convince each other of our views in this comment section.

  9. 周游 says:

    respect for wah suk!

  10. kempton says:

    Thanks. 華叔 has my respects for years. He has kept a firm and strong political views for all these years. He is also very gentle man.

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